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    TAME Pony: The Authenticity MachinE

    IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!! - Please do NOT use anything with the word "Karras" in it to generate images with any of the TAME models. They are NOT compatible, and you will NOT get clean images. Best settings are Euler a with SGM Uniform scheduler.

    You can use other samplers, but always choose SGM Uniform or Simple as your scheduler (unless you have read the version information on the right, which provides a fix for other schedulers, depending on the TAME version you are using).

    Remember: the showcase images are meant to be reproducible. There are no special techniques used to produce them, just good settings and a mild upscale (1.5x-2x) using highres fix. If you are not getting images that nice, the problem is your settings. I suggest to try downloading one of the sample images and load it into your image generator, then use the settings for your own prompts until you figure out settings that works better for you.

    Version 2.5 is here!

    Like version 2, the changes in this version have been achieved only through merging.

    Since I had a lot of feedback that people missed the vivid colour and Pony knowledge (characters, men) from version 1, I went back and reworked the recipe from the start to try to get as much of that as possible back into the model while retaining the improvements from version 2.

    I also improved the diversity somewhat. It's still limited, but at least now you can actually prompt for Asian girls and get them!

    I did have to compromise slightly on anatomy and realism, but overall I think it worked pretty well. Let me know what you think in the comments.

    Version 2.5 Usage:

    I like CFG 5 for this one, but anything from 2-7 generally works well. It has the same wide CFG range like version 2, so feel free to crank it up higher as long as you raise the steps to compensate.

    I haven't tested the samplers as thoroughly as I did with version 2, but the DPM samplers are still working well with SGM Uniform or Simple. Still not working out of the box with Karras, but it does work if you set sigma min to 0.1 (note that Version 2 required 0.3). You can set this in options/sampler parameters in A1111, or with a node in ComfyUI.

    In my opinion, DPM++ SDE and DPM++ 3M SDE with SGM Uniform scheduler typically give nicer results than Euler a on this model, but try around.

    As always, please post images and feedback so I can see what everyone is up to!

    P.S. This will likely be the last version for a while, as I don't think I can squeeze much more out of merges. Version 3 will come, but not until I manage to do more custom training.


    Version 2:

    No new training this time, but hundreds of hours of merging, testing, and tweaking to squeeze more quality and realism out of the model. Two more SDXL models (bigASP and NightVision) and two more Pony models (CinEro and One-Trick) were introduced to the mix. Version 2 still has the realism, responsiveness and capabilities of the TAME you know and love, but with improved anatomy, clarity, image quality, sampler compatibility, lighting, and artistic capabilities.

    This is NOT just a porn checkpoint. Yes, it can do realistic XXX really well, but there is much more it can do, so look at the example images and try around.

    Version 2 Usage:

    Same guidelines as version 1, but with a few extra tips:

    CFG 3 will give good, realistic, high quality results, but the output will be less vivid than version 1. If you prefer that bright and colourful feel, increase CFG to between 5-7.

    If you want to get artistic, higher CFG even up to 20+ can give interesting results! But increase the number of steps if you start seeing colorful artifacts or other issues.

    All the DPM samplers are now working well, IF you choose SGM Uniform or Simple as your scheduler. If you are using an old version of Auto1111 or something where you cannot independently choose the scheduler, they may not work.

    If that is the case, or if you want to use one of the non-working schedulers, you can go to settings, sampler parameters, and set sigma min to 0.3 (may not be the optimal value, but works pretty well for me). This should fix Karras and most other schedulers except KL Optimal. BUT remember to set it back to 0 at some point because it will negatively affect the results if you use schedulers that were already working!

    Please post interesting results so myself and others can see what you have been up to with the model, and get some new ideas of what it is capable of!


    Version 1:

    This model is all about maximum realism and sexiness. It aims to achieve a new level of realism for Pony models. While there are a lot of amazing Pony realistic models out there, most of them suffer from "Ponyness": their Pony heritage is immediately clear when you look at faces or anatomy. TAME certainly has its flaws, some of which I hope to remedy in future versions, but from what I can tell the amount of "Ponyness" is very low.

    Many creators are jumping on the Flux bandwagon now, which is understandable. It's a great model. But for those of us stuck with older GPUs I don't think it is the best option (if it is an option at all). I've also noticed a degree of "Fluxness" is present in most/all of the fine tunes.

    TAME began with a series of checkpoint merges, using block weight merge to combine a set of realistic PonyXL and SDXL models in a way that maintained the prompt adherence and flexibility of Pony. I then trained the resulting model on my own dataset to further improve the realism.

    The Authenticity MachinE will not win any awards for creativity but it is damned good at making realistic pictures of women in any state of dress or undress.

    Quick start:

    Sampler: Euler a

    Steps: 20

    CFG Scale: 3

    Resolution: 912x1280, 1024x1400, 1280x1536

    Hires fix: ESRGAN_4x

    Upscale by: 1.5

    Hires steps: 10

    Denoise: 0.3

    Usage guide:

    Score tags: You do not need score tags with TAME. Putting them in may not hurt but it likely won't help either, so why waste the prompt space?

    Quality words: You do not need quality words (8k, masterpiece, best quality, etc) with TAME. They are a waste of prompt space.

    Negative prompts: You do not need negative prompts with TAME unless there are specific things you want to exclude.

    Positive prompts: Prompt length doesn't matter too much, but keep it simple. Words and phrases with commas in between. The model understands Pony style prompts, but does not do well with natural language prompts. TAME usually responds well to gentle prompting (take a look at the example image prompts), so don't use a lot of emphasis e.g., (large breasts:1.8) unless the model is being stubborn. Start by just telling it what you want, then play with emphasis, rearranging words, and more advanced techniques if you aren't getting the right results.

    Don't fill up your prompt with nonsense words. Look at this example I copied from another model's gallery (RealVis XL V5.0):

    photograph the little catgirl, cat ears, wearing fur dark coat, 50mm . cinematic 4k epic detailed 4k epic detailed photograph shot on kodak detailed cinematic hbo dark moody, 35mm photo, grainy, vignette, vintage, Kodachrome, Lomography, stained, highly detailed, found footage, (masterpiece), (best quality), (ultra-detailed), the little catgirl, cat ears, wearing fur dark coat, illustration, disheveled hair, detailed eyes, perfect composition, moist skin, intricate details, earrings, cinematic still the little catgirl, cat ears, wearing fur dark coat . emotional, harmonious, vignette, 4k epic detailed, shot on kodak, 35mm photo, sharp focus, high budget, cinemascope, moody, epic, gorgeous, film grain, grainy, the little catgirl, cat ears, wearing fur dark coat, detailed, elegant, highly colorful, warm light, sharp focus, beautiful, intricate, expressive, rich deep colors, cinematic, cute, enhanced quality, creative, positive vibrant romantic atmosphere, depicted, perfect background, professional, thought, iconic, best, thoughtful, pretty, attractive, charming, confident, passionate

    I can't speak for RealVis because I didn't create it, but I strongly suspect that much of that prompt is doing nothing. What I can tell you is if you use that prompt with TAME you will not get great results. Here is a quick rewrite:

    catgirl,earrings,cat ears,wearing dark fur coat,warm lighting

    See how simple that is? From 142 words down to 10, that's more than a 90% reduction. Now, observe the difference in the actual renders using TAME:

    Long prompt:

    Not terrible, but probably not what the user was looking for.

    Short prompt:

    See the difference? 90% less words and a much better image that is likely also closer to what the user was looking for (romantic atmosphere, elegant, etc). In fact, it looks so good that I decided to use it in the model showcase!

    Adetailer: I do not recommend using Adetailer with TAME. In my experience it makes things worse. Most of the time you are better off with just Hires fix. If you are having trouble with e.g. a really small face then maybe give it a go, but don't expect miracles. Often changing the settings (sampler, prompt, resolution, steps, denoise, etc) will get you a better solution. For example, full body poses often render best at a more narrow resolution (square resolution often makes the faces smaller) and e.g. work better with Euler a than with DPM++ SDE. Too few steps can make things blurry while too many can cause artifacts and strange eyes. Higher denoise can fix more issues but can also mess things up.

    Resolution: This model was trained on a high quality dataset with a max training resolution of 1536x1536. That means you can often generate at up to 1536x1536 without deforming your subjects. The model also works well at pretty much any width-height combination, even extreme ones.

    For example the image below was generated at 2048x408:

    And this one was generated at 504x2048:

    These are just test images done on the fly, without Hires fix, but as you can see neither of them has any obvious deformities or other major issues. The second image would look significantly better with Hires fix and the extra finger could likely be eliminated by trying a different seed.

    Basically you have about 2.4 million pixels to work with, and as long as you don't exceed that by much (width x height) the model works. For example, you can crank the width all the way up to 2048 and set the height to 400, 800, or 1200... but if you go much above 1200 you will need to reduce the width or you will start to see weird things happen.

    Even a tiny change in the resolution typically has a large effect on the image (pose, etc). So be creative, try different resolutions!

    Upscaling: I highly recommend using Hires fix, but make sure you choose a good upscaler. My favourite is 4x_NMKD-Siax_200k, but 4x_foolhardy_Remacri and ESRGAN_4x are also good choices. I generally set it to 1.5x resolution with approximately half the number of steps used for the first pass and a denoise strength of 0.2-0.4 (default for me is 0.3). You can of course upscale further if you desire.

    Samplers: Euler a is highly recommended as it will give you good results with a range of settings. DPM++ SDE can work well with some images (avoid it for full body poses) but it really has to be dialed in or it will look terrible. Other working samplers include DPM++ 2S a, DPM++ 3M SDE, Euler, DPM2, DDPM, and LCM. Most others do not work properly with this model.

    Schedulers: I haven't played around much with different schedulers, so you are on your own with that. I use Forge (an offshoot of Auto 1111) which has limited options for sampler/scheduler combos, but I haven't noticed huge differences in any case.

    CFG Scale: Typically 1.5-5 is best (I keep it at 3 most of the time), but you can try going higher if you wish. Worst case you get a bad looking image or two, right?

    Steps:

    Euler a - 15-30 steps + 8-15 hires steps (for best quality I typically use 25 + 12)

    DPM++ SDE - 6 steps + 4 hires steps (for pure speed you can even drop it to 5 steps and turn off hires fix, but don't expect mind blowing quality with this sampler)

    DPM++ 2S a / DPM++ 3M SDE / Euler - 12 steps + 6 hires steps (these are decent starting points, but I haven't done in-depth testing with these samplers)

    DPM2 / DDPM / LCM - I haven't played with these except to test that they work, so you are on your own

    Notes:

    On occasion you might notice a watermark appearing. This is either due to one of the models I merged in, or I made a few mistakes in cropping my own dataset. Either way just change the seed and it should go away.

    The model is not great at counting fingers and sometimes creates too many or too few, especiallly in close-ups. If you have the the rest of the image dialed in but can't get the hands right, start generating batches using variation seed at a low strength... hopefully one of them will give you the correct number of fingers without drastically altering the rest of the image.

    This model can generate very realistic vulvas, including the inside bits...the closer you are to your subject, the more realistic the vulva will be (see examples in the sample images). To get your subject to show you her innermost parts, use the term "spread pussy". Variations might work, but this is the term the model was trained on. You can also use "pubic hair" or "female pubic hair" in the positive or negative prompt or with an emphasis of less than one (e.g. pubic hair:0.5) to dial in the amount of pubic hair. You can try adding clitoris and urethra to the prompt if the anatomy isn't quite right, especially in close-ups, but I'm not sure how reliably this works. The model should also understand "gaping pussy" or "pussy gape" but again I am not sure how reliably.

    The model can also do peeing, squirting (to a limited extent), penetration, masturbation, fingering, dildo, vibrator, anal, titfucking, etc. If you are having trouble getting the girl to e.g. stick a cucumber in her ass, don't fill the prompt with different words and phrases. Use something like this: anal object insertion, anal cucumber. Those two phrases, in that order, should do the trick. The same trick works for bananas, bottles, etc. Usually the phrase "cucumber in anus" will render a cucumber, but the girl will not put it in her ass. This is generally true for many other models too, in my experience. If you are having trouble getting cunnilingus or titfucking to work, try altering the positions of your subjects to something that makes anatomical sense (might take a bit of trial and error, giving directions to multiple subjects in one prompt can be a pain in the ass).

    Please use this model with care, given its realistic capabilities. I have used only images of adults in the training dataset, but the model may still be capable of generating inappropriate images due to existing content or merged models. I have thus far not encountered anything inappropriate by accident, and I do not have any intention of testing for it. In any case, please do not post anything inappropriate in the gallery. Furthermore, I am not responsible for any misuse that may occur.

    Finally, I would like to acknowledge and thank the creators of these other wonderful models, whose work I built upon:

    GODDESS of Realism by Oppkllll

    CreaPrompt_Lightning_Hyper-SDXL by jice

    Another Pony Realistic Merge by Error666

    iCatcher Realistic by iCatcher

    SatPony-NoScore by Sateluco

    Juggernaut XL by KandooAI

    LEOSAM's HelloWorld XL by LEOSAM

    Crystal Clear XL by WarAnakin

    Pony Diffusion V6 XL by PurpleSmartAI

    Better Cum - Pony (Lora) by Topplok2

    bigASP by nutbutter

    NightVisionXL by socalguitarist

    CinEro Pony by homoludens

    One-Trick Pony XL by DarkDescent

    CyberRealistic Pony by Cyberdelia

    Lustify by coyotte

    Description

    About this version

    Version 2.5 - quick start settings:

    DPM++ 3M SDE with SGM Uniform sampler (NOT Karras unless you use the fix mentioned below!), 25 steps, CFG 5, Hires fix 1.5x with ESRGAN 4x

    The idea behind this version is to combine the Pony knowledge and vivid colours that many loved from version 1 with as many of the improvements from version 2 as possible. I had to compromise a little on the anatomy, but it is still significantly better than version 1.

    Improvements compared to version 2:

    More knowledge of Pony characters

    Easier to create men

    More diversity (you can prompt for an Asian woman and actually get one!)

    Better prompt following

    Better sampler/scheduler compatibility (still doesn't work properly with Karras but it's close. Sigma min (settings/sampler parameters) now only needs to be at 0.1 instead of 0.3).

    More vivid

    Compromises:

    Slightly less accurate vulvas (but much better than version 1)

    A bit less realistic overall

    It still has a very high useful CFG range, good image quality, good faces at a distance, etc.

    Notes:

    Works with most samplers if you select SGM Uniform or Simple as your scheduler. Best results with:

    Euler a (20+ steps)

    DPM++ SDE (8+ steps)

    DPM++ 3M SDE (20+ steps)

    DPM++ 2M SDE (10+ steps)

    DPM++ 2M (15+ steps)

    If you want to use Karras (this will work with some other schedulers as well), set sigma min to 0.1 (note this is different from version 2, which required 0.3). Go to settings/sampler parameters in Auto1111 or use a node in ComfyUI. However, it will negatively affect working schedulers, so don't forget to set it back to 0 again!

    Resolution: 832x1216, 1024x1400, 1280x1400, 768x1400, 1280x1280... these are my goto standard resolutions, but use whatever you like, it shouldn't matter much.

    I highly recommend upscaling (e.g. high res fix) for best quality.

    For general use, CFG of 5 gives clean, bright, vivid images. But usually anything from 2-7 looks nice. As with version 2, if you want to get more artistic you can crank it up pretty much as high as you want, even 20+, but you will need to increase the steps.

    FAQ

    Comments (49)

    3567304Oct 13, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    make it 4 step lightning version by merging 4 step lora in your model

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 13, 2024· 2 reactions

    Perhaps this is a cultural misunderstanding... but given that I do not get any kind of compensation for my work on this model, this kind of comment doesn't come across well. I will consider your request if you rephrase it respectfully.

    3567304Oct 13, 2024

    Dear sir @zyxt99565 would appreciate if you make lightning 4 step version of your model, we respect your work and effort into this model, hopefully you will consider our humble request, thanks. 

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 13, 2024· 1 reaction

    @hassansoomro Much better thanks, I appreciate the rephrase! I will see if I can make it happen. :-)

    3567304Oct 18, 2024

    @zyxt99565 Hi once again, humble reminder about lightning version 4 steps if possible,thanks.

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 18, 2024

    @hassansoomro So far I have not been very successful, but I have not given up yet and will continue to look into it when I have time.

    SaculativOct 13, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    V2.5 is perfect.

    I foresee this model getting very popular in no time.

    4922560Oct 13, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Good stuff with V2.5, you took feedback from V2.0 and made an even better model than V1.0 and that version was already excellent.

    nottheninjaOct 13, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    v2.5 is simply incredible. Glad to see that some of the important pony knowledge is back. The distant faces still awe me, as this is the first time I've seen a SDXL based model do that well. Works very well with Pony LoRAs now.

    Also, for anyone having issues with the image quality, just use Euler A with SGM uniform. Hires fix works wonders. I use UltimateSDupscale in Comfy as I can't do a direct hires fix with my 4 GB VRAM :p.

    Even with the sampler fixes, Euler A still works for the best results. I tried them all and SDE samplers don't produce results as good as Euler A. UniPC_BH2 with sgm_uniform also works really well.

    Adaptalab0rOct 14, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    v2.5 ... Thank you! You did it! You nailed it! again! Even better even harder even more versatile. Here is what I found:

    Posing / Anatomy:

    +++ Better hands / Soft hands look more detailed and more organic/natural you can almost feel the smoothness of those fingers. Male Hands look strong.

    ++ Even better genetalia and anus.

    ++ Probability of disfigurement is decreased

    Dude. Before 80-90% looked flawless. Now it's even better

    • Hand disfigurement stayed the same

    ++ Eyes seem more clear and beautiful

    + Sharp and versatile skin textures

    ++ Beautiful seductive facial expressions. subtle and convincing.

    Composition: Truely Authentic ;-)

    +++ More vivid colours now possible

    Images look more realistic and less cinemati, if this makes sense to you. I love it, because it is far more emersive. in v2 it seemed more monotonous.

    ++ more interesting camera angles.

    - Darker images are hard to generate

    but i didn't test it in v2 or v1 though, so I don't have a comparison.

    ++ There is more life to the images. far better than v2 and on par with v1, but with far better image quality.

    + Men are far easier to generate an look good.

    High-res fix now doesn't turn them into females as often as before (which could be my prompting style anyways)

    Prompting/Knowledge:

    +++ Video-Game and Anime chars are back and even more convincing than before. They are easy to generate and don't look to ponylike if you use the right prompts for realism.

    +++ Very responsive, especially compared to most realistic models I've tried (a lot).

    I'm a huge fan of your work

    You saved me a lot of hard drive space as I now can clear up a lot of memory, because your model makes most of my former favourites obsolete. It is a dream come true. Only very specialized models would need to stay (Anthro/Anime).

    So all I could do is to thank you and try to showcase more images. I don't know how you did it, but I think your model is by far the best realistic pony-Model i know. There is no comarison. I hope you have fun and if so keep up the good work!

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 14, 2024

    Thank you for all the kind words! I'm very glad you enjoy the model as much as I do!

    It's a lot of time and effort to develop, but I did it because I wasn't satisfied with the level of realism other models were producing. I don't really know how either.. a bit of luck, a bit of magic and a LOT of trial and error and perseverance. I do enjoy developing it, but I also get a bit carried away sometimes putting in hours when I should be sleeping, just to improve it a little bit more. That's why I'm not going to bother with any more versions until I manage to do more custom training. The hours spent on merging, testing and tweaking get too much for too little return at this point.

    People seem quite happy with v2.5, so I feel that I can let it rest until I have some datasets ready and can train in some new stuff.

    *Edit: Actually, it's possible I will release a lightning/hyper version as per request, but that's proving to be a bit tricky due to the existing lightning/hyper DNA in the model, so still unclear at this point.

    JonXLOct 15, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Awesome that you released a 2.5 update, now I have even more to play with :)

    By the way have you looked at animatedPonyReal?

    I noticed that one also produce great realism results, it may be interesting to look at to merge with? :)

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 16, 2024

    To be honest, I think I've squeezed about as much as I can out of merges at this point. Now I'm focusing on building up my dataset so I can do more custom training.

    JonXLOct 16, 2024

    @zyxt99565 Alright! I am impressed by your work!

    Miru00Oct 19, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    The best REAL model i have ever seen and used. Wide variety to adapt to both Real and Fantasy scene. A model you need to try. :D

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Oct 19, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    REMINDER: the TAME models are NOT compatible out of the box with Karras! Use SGM Uniform or Simple as your scheduler. If you can't select the scheduler independently, then choose Euler a and it will work well.

    I think that most people don't read the usage instructions, so I try to put this information as many places as possible now. :-)

    Also, you can download the example images to get the settings and then change the prompt to your own. There is no Loras or controlnet or any special techniques used to produce them, just a mild upscale using highres fix in A1111. So they should be reproducible.

    kinai_Oct 20, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Damn, what an amazing model. Maybe slightly too muted saturation wise, but that's really the only nitpick I can find at the moment ( and to be fair many pony real model have the opposite problem of being too saturated ).

    I've spent an unreasonable amount of time with the really good Pony Realism 2.1, but this Tame model just replaced it for me overnight, just crazy impressive.

    JonXLOct 22, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    I have tried many, many realistic pony models so far and I can now confirm this is by far the best at doing realism! Extremely good job!

    Even though you probably won't merge any new models, I do want to mention however the NSFW release of Uber Realistic Porn Merge 🦄PonyXL-Hybrid (URPM), which is probably my second favorite realistic model.. if you ever are going to merge then this probably is one you may want to take a look at as well :)

    Adaptalab0rNov 6, 2024

    I agree, I'm still testing most of tje realisting ones. There is still no comparison. "BigLove v1.0" is a tiny bit more realistic but it takes 10 times the effort, so you have to work hard to get interesting results there. TametAM This one is just fun and almost every image has something unique and beautiful to it. Thanks zyxt99565

    isr431Nov 16, 2024

    Funnily enough Pony XL Hybrid contains this model in it's merge, so I wouldn't recommend merging it back into Tame Pony 🤣 @zyxt99565

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Nov 25, 2024· 2 reactions

    Thanks for the comments all. Yes, probably merging with a merge that contains this merge would break the universe in some way!

    Unfortunately I haven't got time to work on models at the moment, so there won't be more versions anytime soon. Trying to get more sleep and less screen time so I can be more productive in my real job. ;-)

    hkg364Oct 23, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Version 2 seems to be even better than the first, and that was a tall order in my opinion. Outstanding work :)

    sevenof9247Oct 30, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    you have forget to take also one of my pony models ;)

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Nov 1, 2024

    I knew something was missing... :-)

    GairmNov 1, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Terribly underrated model, this has fast become one of my favorite models to play with for a mix of PONY flexibility and amazing realism quality. Sometimes has trouble with adhering to lighting prompts, and has some trouble with feet, but that's more an inherent issue with Pony I suppose.

    Hope to see more version of this model for sure though, amazing work here :)

    LoneWoolfManNov 4, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Thanks, but one request, or suggestion, make a ComfyUI workflow, along side your Checkpoint, that way you will make sure that people can make good quality images, since it would have every settings...

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Nov 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    That's a good idea! However, I do not use ComfyUI.

    isr_431Nov 16, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Just finished testing v2.5, which is a very solid model, although it has some minor drawbacks. I would rank it among the top 5 NSFW realistic Pony/SDXL finetunes.

    The model demonstrates excellent coherence, with no major anatomical issues or distortions. It consistently generates proper images, even when given a low quality prompt. Overall, it is more reliable than most SDXL NSFW fine-tunes and approaches the anatomical accuracy of Pony.

    The model also excels in realism by default, though this can sometimes be a double-edged sword. For instance, people in the images often exhibit rough or highly detailed skin textures, with hard shadows and a noticeable amount of film grain. This isn't advantage or disadvantage, but rather an observation.

    The main downside is the limited variety of faces generated by the model. The faces also tend to be average or somewhat uninteresting and often default to chubby, saggy, or more mature appearances.

    isr_431Nov 16, 2024

    @zyxt99565 If you get a chance to read this, thanks for all the work you've put in. The gallery images don't do the model justice. I would recommend you highlight/pin some high quality images to showcase the model's maximum potential. I've personally posted some of my favorite generations with it.

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Nov 25, 2024· 3 reactions

    Read and noted. Good idea! I pinned some of my favourites from the gallery.

    baablebroxDec 9, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    I just LOVE this checkpoint, thank you!!

    Any plans for doing the same for Flux Dev?

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Dec 14, 2024

    Nice to hear :-) Unfortunately I can't do anything with Flux, as I have only 6GB VRAM.

    robcoch93Dec 10, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Hello, firstly : Congrats for insane work.
    This is my TOP one model for Pony realistic NSFW.

    But i cannot achieve good character Lora training with kohya. Do you have some tips/settings ?

    All the pic becames really bad when lora is added.

    MaxminiDec 12, 2024

    :O

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Dec 14, 2024· 1 reaction

    Hi, I wouldn't recommend to use this model to train Loras. From my experience it's better to train them on the original Pony v6 and then they should work.

    robcoch93Dec 14, 2024

    @zyxt99565 Thanks, I will try ths asap :)

    user6565792Dec 11, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    nice one, keep on going! TY

    OrangeJuiceAlienDec 23, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    this is a really good model, when using Karras with the fix you mentioned!

    0101ARTJan 12, 2025· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Guys, tell me what about using character's Loras with this checkpoint? I can't set up the generation..

    dngstn32Jan 14, 2025· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Amazing checkpoint, been my favorite for months now. Any chance on doing an Illustrious merge? People keep raving about the adherence, dataset, etc. but as far as I'm seen so far none of the "realism" Illustrious models hold a candle to this.

    zyxt99565
    Author
    Jan 17, 2025

    Thank you! Unfortunately there is a near-zero chance of this, as I don't have the time to make models anymore. However, I see that goddess of realism, which is one of the core models this one is based on, now has an experimental Illustrious merge. So maybe take a look at that? Also, I'm happy if anyone else wants to try merging this model with Illustrious. :-)

    Honestly though, I have a feeling the results won't be great. It would be better to take an Illustrious-based realism model and start from there.

    dngstn32Jan 17, 2025

    @zyxt99565 Understood, makes sense. I think it might be the additional dataset that you've added to your model that separates it from the rest of the pack, that's why I asked. I have yet to try any checkpoint merging, so maybe now is a good time to dive into that. Thanks!

    Chibi_AlienFeb 14, 2025· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    2.5 follows prompts much better and is a lot more flexible overall. Easily one of the best checkpoints around for realism! Thank you for sharing your work!!

    gambikules858Feb 14, 2025· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Best pony model for realistic images

    StrivahMar 16, 2025· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Update = It's gone again. We need this back Civ.

    One of the top Pony checkpoints. Needs to rise up in rank quickly, very useful and pretty.

    ffc4nowJul 8, 2025· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    can we have this on for onsite generation?

    nightmare_leadAug 14, 2025· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Any chance of open sourcing this (training data, documented process)? I saw that you don't have time for more models these days but I think this one is probably among the best of the SDXL/Pony era and it'd be great to see what else could be built on it

    tinderizzaSep 11, 2025· 11 reactions
    CivitAI

    Any chance of a new version?

    rlowe3306Jan 28, 2026· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    fine if you like them plain looking and 40+ at a minimum.

    Checkpoint
    Pony

    Details

    Downloads
    8,325
    Platform
    CivitAI
    Platform Status
    Available
    Created
    10/12/2024
    Updated
    4/30/2026
    Deleted
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    Same model published on other platforms. May have additional downloads or version variants.