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    CharTurner - Character Turnaround helper for 1.5 AND 2.1! - CharTurner V2 - For 1.5
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    CharTurner

    Edit: controlNet works great with this. Charturner keeps the outfit consistent, controlNet openPose keeps the turns under control.

    Three versions, scroll down to pick the right one for you.

    If you're unsure of what version you are running, it's probably 1.5, as it is more popular, but 2.1 is newer and gaining ground fast.

    Version 2, for 2.0 and 2.1 models
    Version 2, for 1.5 models
    Version 1, for 1.5 models

    BONUS: Experimental LORA released
    used at your own risk. :D (mixes well tho)

    Hey there! I'm a working artist, and I loathe doing character turnarounds, I find it the least fun part of character design. I've been working on an embedding that helps with this process, and, though it's not where I want it to be, I was encouraged to release it under the MVP principle.

    I'm also working on a few more character embeddings, including a head turn around and an expression sheet. They're still way too raw to release tho.

    Is there some type of embedding that would be useful for you? Let me know, i'm having fun making tools to fix all the stuff I hate doing by hand.

    v1 is still a little bit... fiddly.

    • Sampler: I use DPM++ 2m Karras or DDIM most often.

    • Highres. fix ON for best results

    • landscape orientation will get you more 'turns'; square images tend toward just front and back.

    • I like https://civarchive.com/models/2540/elldreths-stolendreams-mix to make characters in.

    • I use an embedding trained on my own art (smoose) that I will release if people want it? But it's an aesthetic thing, just my own vibe.

    • I didn't really test this in any of the waifu/NAI type models, as I don't usually use them. Looks like it works but it probably has its own special dance.

    Things I'm working on for v2: EDIT: V2 out, see below! (also v2 2.1)

    • It fights you on style sometimes. I'm adding more various types of art styles to the dataset to combat this. - V2 has much better styles

    • Open front coats and such tend to be open 'back' on the back view. Adding more types of clothing to the dataset to combat this. - Still has this problem

    • Tends toward white and 'fit' characters, which isn't useful. Adding more diversity in body and skin tone to the dataset to combat this. - v2 Much more body and racial diversity added to the set, easier to get different results.

    Helps create multiple full body views of a character. The intention is to get at least a front and back, and ideally, a front, 3/4, profile, 1/4 and back versions, in the same outfit.

    Description

    2.1 and LoRa versions coming soon.

    Prompt hints: format something like this: "A character turnaround of a (X) wearing (Y). " In some of the prompts the token is spelled differently: due to some technical issues with xformers, I trained this badboy about 40 times, and some of the examples are from those trainings. All the same dataset, I promise. Just change any weird token names to CharTurnerV2 if you use them.

    Token - "CharTurnerV2" place at the front for stronger effect, place at the end for a weaker effect. Token weighting works too

    Add:

    • "Multiple views of the same character in the same outfit"

    • Add original CharTurner to mix back in some anime/turns

    • Add charTurner Lora (uploading soon) on top (at very low strength, like .3) to really force the turn. Will affect style.

    Next Version: (after the v2 lora and 2.1 versions): Looking for more variety for the data set! Post a review or comment with your best turn around (especially if it was a hard one to get it to do!) and I will use it in the V3 dataset.

    FAQ

    Comments (38)

    dromerovillar557Feb 7, 2023
    CivitAI

    Buenísimo trabajo. Can't wait till I get home to try it out.

    juvesatrianiFeb 7, 2023
    CivitAI

    Great!! Curious to know about LORA version . What kind advantage using LORA than TI version ? Is it better ?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023

    Not better, just different? I think Lora are a little heavy handed (for instance, the Lora version has to be used at .2 - .4 weighting, or it takes over entirely.). I'm new to Lora, so i probably bollixed up some setting, hope to have it worked out and behaving soon.

    juvesatrianiFeb 7, 2023

    @mousewrites thanks for information . would you mind to let me know what model you`ve used to produce those examples ?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023

    @juvesatriani StollenDreams, Dreamshaper, RealisticVision, 1.5 pruned (which is what it was trained in). Maybe a few others here and there but those are my main ones.

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023

    Oh and Protogen58scifi

    ateistFeb 7, 2023
    CivitAI

    Looks like an incredibly good basis to start textual inversion training of the character.

    Is it possible to make it generate whole recommended set (25 different poses) in one go?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023· 1 reaction

    Maybe take a 25 pose shot of a different character and try img2imge over it? With this version, it's probably not doable to prompt for 25 specificic poses.

    josephcFeb 7, 2023· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I'm absolutely floored at how good this looks. Can I ask how many examples of your own training data you used and how long it took to train? I've been trying to do this for a facial expression sheet for a few days and can't seem to get anything but garbage output.

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023· 3 reactions

    22 images, 660 steps, about an hour to train. BUT i've been working for WEEKS, training over and over, trying to find the right balance of dataset and settings. There's a bug in auto1111 training with xformers that might be screwing you, check this out (link should go to workaround solution that fixed it for me) https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issues/7264#issuecomment-1418206085

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023· 4 reactions

    Also, I wrote a thing for expression sheets, because I had no luck with an embed either, really. This method works tho https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103rk2k/use_script_xy_prompt_to_create_expression_sheets/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

    josephcFeb 7, 2023

    @mousewrites You are a lifesaver. Thank you so much.

    drakmourFeb 7, 2023
    CivitAI

    Is it possible to put dummies in poses that you need and use img2img to imperonise them with your prompt on medium \ high denoise? Will it work? And I ask not only T poses but a bit more complex ones.

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 7, 2023· 1 reaction

    Yup, that's one way to do it. LIke, get a set of dummies that are in roughly the right spots, put your character over ONE of them, mask that one, and use an inpainting model to img2img the rest of them.

    drakmourFeb 7, 2023

    Ok, cool. Thanks for the very usefull work!

    RatonMaloFeb 8, 2023
    CivitAI

    What model are you using for those results ?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 8, 2023· 1 reaction

    various, including base 1.5 pruned, stollenDreams, Deliberate, Dreamshaper, Protogen58, RealsticVision.

    RatonMaloFeb 8, 2023

    Thanks! btw, I'm not aware of stollenDreams model, do you have a link ?

    9ballFeb 8, 2023
    CivitAI

    Hi, I see that u mentioned landscape, what are the ideal dimensions that you suggest? Also how many steps on average?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 8, 2023

    anything wider than it is tall, i don't have a ideal dimension. All the source images are square, of course, but the many turn ones have a lot of 'headroom', which the ai mostly doesn't like. So, i've tried everything from 4:3 to 16:9 and they all work. (there's an extension that adds ratio buttons to automatic1111 now, they are very useful). So, 512 for the height, something larger for the width. 768 works well just cuz it's tidy. XD

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 8, 2023

    Steps depend on your sampler. I do a lot of ddim at 20-30 steps.

    TheBarretFeb 8, 2023· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Very nice work!

    XeltoshFeb 8, 2023
    CivitAI

    is it possible to use this as a mirror-image generator?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 8, 2023

    you can try! :D I didn't teach it to do that specifically but you can probably get it to happen.

    190854Feb 9, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    make a safetensors version plz

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 9, 2023

    I don't think there's a safetensor version of textual embeddings, but if I can find out how to do that I will. :D

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 9, 2023

    Checked with the Civatai people; no way currently to have a safetensors embed. There IS a lora version, though it's not as good yet.

    190854Feb 11, 2023

    @mousewrites o ok

    hjgkhgkjhgkhjgkjhgFeb 9, 2023
    CivitAI

    Does anyone know how to put this in the nmkd stable diffusion gui?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 9, 2023

    I don't think that gui takes textual inverserion embeds, sadly. I will ask around, but afaik, it doesn't.

    ThibaudzFeb 10, 2023
    CivitAI

    Do you know when you'll release the 2.1 version of your amazing TI?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 10, 2023

    I have it ready to go, just trying to get a few more demo shots, so probably today?

    ninjasaid13Feb 12, 2023
    CivitAI

    I wonder if this can be used with controlnet's pose control.

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 12, 2023

    Ooo, I dunno, that'd be rad if so

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 15, 2023· 1 reaction

    Update: yes, yes it can. Control net will pick up multiple people, and using charturner means they all get the same outfit. :D

    NeoLogerFeb 12, 2023
    CivitAI

    Can we have a safetensors version model of this?

    mousewrites
    Author
    Feb 12, 2023

    Nope. It's not a model, and there's no safetensors verison of embeds (if they make one, I will use it, but it doesn't currently exist). This goes on top of your model.

    TextualInversion
    SD 1.5

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