Mobius v4.0 (Pony + IL)
Weight: 1.0
Trigger: Mobius
Character:
Mobius, gradient eyes, green hair, wavy hair, long hair, slit pupils,Default Outfit:
Mb_Def, black crown, cleavage, side cutout, sideless leotard, black leotard, fishnet bodysuit, fishnet pantyhose, white halter top, chest cutout, chest spike, black pendant, single earring, black skirt, mermaid dress, skirt cutout, green trim, single detached sleeve, see-through sleeves, pleated sleeves, black gloves, asymmetrical gloves, green claw ring, single elbow glove, bare shoulders, black dress,Disclaimer: Pony doesn't seem to understand how "mermaid dress" is supposed to work, so it just makes a mermaid tail thing. Another reason why I already like Illustrious more.
Swimsuit Outfit:
Mb_Swm, horn hair ornament, alt single earring, jewelry, white one-piece swimsuit, frilled swimsuit, cleavage cutout, cleavage, blue breast strap, halterneck, bare shoulders, sideless swimsuit, bracelet, thigh cutout, clothing cutout, long skirt, blue skirt,Egyptian Outfit: (Remove "wavy hair")
Mb_Egp, ancient egyptian clothes, egyptian clothes, braided ponytail, sleeveless dress, alt long skirt, open skirt, white skirt, white dress, fake animal ears, hair ornament, mouth veil, see-through clothes, see-through veil, between breasts, animal hood, hooded cloack, cleavage, criss-cross straps, ankh necklace, alt clothing cutout, alt side cutout, alt jewelry, bare shoulders, crossed belts, sideless dress, white pelvic curtain, black thigh strap, single wrist guard, bandaged arm, gold claw ring, wristlet,Stigmata Outfit:
Mb_Stg, black loose necktie, single earring, sleeveless shirt, dark green shirt, cleavage, pendant choker, covered navel, black bodystocking, black miniskirt, half glove, black glove, white coat, collared coat, long sleeves, white sleeves, single thighhigh, black thighhighs, single leg pantyhose, black pantyhose, green belt strap, brown belt, underbust,Maid Outfit:
Mb_Maid, white bra, frilled bra, pink corset, maid, frilled apron, white apron, pink skirt, pink dress, frilled dress, detached sleeves, puffy short sleeves, pink sleeves, frilled sleeves, black bow, chest bow, hair bow, white gloves, frilled gloves, alternate side cutout, single pantyhose leg, alt black pantyhose, alt single thighhigh, alt black thighhighs, single garter strap, frilled thigh strap, bra straps,Story Lab Coat Outfit:
Mb_Str, alt collared shirt, single earring, green shirt, striped shirt, black necktie, pantyhose, brown pantyhose, black pencil skirt, labcoat, white labcoat,Merch Swimsuit Outfit:
Mb_Mch, competition swimsuit, grey one-piece swimsuit, black thigh belt, cleavage, green bracelets, goggles, goggles on head, twintails, Razer Collab Outfit:
Mb_Clb, fishnet bodystocking, fishnets, alternate single thighhigh, asymmetrical legwear, fishnet thighhighs, thigh garter, black thigh strap, short shorts, green belt, shoulder bag, green ribbon, green bow, ribbon bow, alt detached sleeves, puffy long sleeves, wide sleeves, bare shoulders, crop top, grey crop top, zipper top, baggy socks, miscolored socks, alt cleavage cutout, headphones around neck, hairclip, hair ribbons, black ribbon, panty straps, midriff, navel, underboob cutout, alternate jewelry, black earrings, green choker,Disclaimer: For Razer Collab Outfit in Pony Version, it's better to put "black crop top" instead of "grey crop top" as it likes to make it white for some reason. It's fine on Illustrious.
Mobius v3.0 (Pony)
Weight: 1.0
Trigger: Mobius
Character:
Mobius, green eyes, gradient eyes, green hair, wavy hair, hair between eyes,Optional: Add "slit pupils" to the Prompt. "green eyes, gradient eyes" are more consistent though.
Default Outfit:
Mobius_Def, black dress, black elbow gloves, white top, long skirt, crown, claw ring, sleeveless dress, cleavage, bare shoulders, jewelry, single earring, Swimsuit Outfit:
Mobius_Swimsuit, cleavage, bare shoulders, blue horn hair ornament, swimsuit, bikini, dress, long skirt, white bikini, mermaid dress, blue skirt, two side up, frills, jewelry,Egyptian Outfit: (Remove "wavy hair")
Mobius_Egypt, braid, braided ponytail, mouth veil, veil, arabian clothes, animal ears, see-through, white dress, bandaged arm, sleeveless, jewelry, medium breasts,Stigmata Outfit:
Mobius_Lab, collared shirt, loose necktie, black necktie, green shirt, shirt, navel, belt, covered navel, choker, black skirt, miniskirt, belt, pantyhose, lab coat, collarbone, half gloves, dress, sleeveless shirt,Maid Outfit:
Mobius_Pink, pink dress, maid apron, maid headdress, white gloves, black thighhighs, puffy sleeves, short sleeves,The results of your generations are dependent on the additional LoRAs, weights, and models you use, so it may not work or come out as consistent as my sample images.
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Gave you a buzz tip on this lora not only because you included her stimagata skin in V3, you also did Magical Girl Sirin, Songque and some others I wanted to give a shot at but I just didn't fell motivated enough... working with datasets is surely a tiresome task.
I did months ago a Stigmata version of Mobius but I never released it because I was not very satisfied with the outcome, I really like how yours turned out, having more skins on her in the same lora is a plus, thanks for giving the Stimata skin some love.
Too bad the Mei lora lacks her Dr. MEI version, considering adding it in the future?
Motivation can be quite a roadkiller indeed, I had a lot of issues with HoV's Default Outfit, it took me 8 re-trains all because of my mistakes. But I still gained important experience. And yeah I know that feeling of not being satisfied with a LoRA, so you have to re-train... Annoying, but so worth it, if you get what you want. As for Dr.Mei thanks, really thank you, because she completely slipped my mind and creating a LoRA for her will be a great addition to Mei's LoRA!
Dr.MEI Version has been added and don't ask why the weight needs to be at 0.6, I have no idea myself... 1.0 weight looks really bad for some reason... But if it works, don't fix it you know.
@khanykov01 Oh nice! gonna check it right now, which training settings do you use? although most my Pony Loras work well with weight 1 I always recommend using 0.8 (mostly because of PTSD from SD1.5 ... honestly I don't want to ever touch that format again, it's too problematic to work with).
Normally I get pretty decent results with 20 to 30ish images... (even less than 20 in rare cases with characters with little images available)
Actually I'm using the AdamW8bit optimizer, I train at 6 epoch, LR 0.0001, Text Encoder LR 0.0001, Unet 0.0005, Rank 16 and Alpha 8, In case you want to experiment (although tampering with settings was a thing I only had to do with SD1.5, impressively enough... not a thing I have to deal with using Pony), can also check the metadata of my lora, 10 repeats for 20, 9 for 30 images, 8 for 40 and so on, been using these settings for pretty much all I do, getting good results... most of the time if a Lora turns out bad its because I used a contaminated dataset.
@Hayanaga Don't remind me of SD1.5, great time, but at the same Oh Lord help me, I'm falling... And yes usually strength 1.0 works perfectly fine, idk why Dr.MEI just decided to say NUH UH to me here. When it comes to amount of images I'm honestly still experimenting, but so far I'm trying to go with 30 max images per sub_dataset, so if I have 5 outfits to work with, it can be 30 30 30 for let's say main outfits, because I can take screenshots in-game or find art of it. And then for other 2 outfits it might be 10 or even less like 6, just a matter of repeats later to equalize them. When it comes to training I use XL Lora Trainer by Hollowstrawberry in Google Colab and I don't even touch the settings, just keep it at default. The only thing I touch is amount of repeats, amount of activation tags and of course the Sub_dataset thing at the bottom of the page. That's about it, I sit more in properly tagging the dataset, I of course rely on AI to auto-tag them, but then fix/add/remove tags. But another thing is since Google Colab in the free version has limited time frame, I only train up to 3 Epochs, even though I train technically on 10. But 3rd is always the best for me for some reason, so I just stick with this system of mine.
@khanykov01 Ah I see, thanks for getting me into context, I used to train in google colab abut year and a half ago (I used to buy credits because I was doing paid commissions back then) because I had a weak GPU, upgraded to a 4070 later but although it allows me train XL, training time still takes a lot as the dataset grows so I doubt I would go beyond any lore with more than 3 outfits for now, at least 20,20,20, thats about 8 hours of training.
EDIT: Tried using the Super Merger extension in ForgeUI to adjust the Dr. MEI lora weights but the plugin is so outdated I guess it's not correctly working with PonyXL oh well, I have no issues using 0.6, just wanted to try out since I used to do that with SD1.5 to bring Loras with low weights back to 1 without needing to retrain.
@Hayanaga I see, I myself have GTX3060 and even though I've tried and I can train LoRAs on my own PC, it takes a long time... With colab I produce a LoRA in around 50 mins of training, since I always take 3rd iteration of the LoRA. As for Dr.MEI, thanks for trying to adjust it, but it is what it is I guess heh.
@khanykov01 Yes... I surrender to her command, when Dr. MEI said no, it is no...
@Hayanaga Ahahah it's fine, I got other LoRAs to work on. Trying to make Silverwing's LoRA right now, but oh my Lord does she no want to cooperate properly. Thanks to her outfit being asymmetrical it looks good, but just incorrect here or there all the time. And that actually is an issue that I noticed with Pony training. It's pretty inconsistent with Asymmetry overall, I had similar issues with HoS's outfits as well... Though I think I like this 6th damn version, so I'll post it today after I make some interesting Sample images, oh and spoiler warning there are more than just 3 outfits for Silverwing hehe
@khanykov01 I had quite similar problems with my Coralie Lora, the more detailed and complex the outfit, it's better to use the best quality pictures, many full body from various angles and close ups to outfit details, something a lot of characters sadly lack... then I got my hands on some character settei design sheets which helped, inconsistencies will always exist here and there however, but Pony was a big improvement, I can't imagine how the next leap in generative models would be. (definitely not trash like SD3 killed by underperformance and a greedy stupid license BS... )
Anyway, looking forward to Silverwing, she is another character I wanted to make but for some reason didn't... she has some loras around (for Silverwing and her first office skin), but I didn't like the performance overall, also I tend to usually, focus more on characters with little to no fanart.
V1. good enough to replicate her def outfit,
V2, I haven't try it yet
V3. her def outfit seems a bit mixed with her swimsuit ver, but generate good result for her swimsuit outfit.
V2 is a mixed bag, when I made it I still didn't know how to make proper separate datasets for each outfit... V1 is indeed the best one for her def outfit since it has literally 100 images of it. V3 might not be the greatest for her def outfit, but it has all of the outfits I wanted it to have at least, which is why other 2 are Deprecated.