You'd assume that a LORA that just shows a pretty face rocking forward and back would be easy! Apparently not. Occlusion is a b!tch.
Front Doggystyle
WAN22
A {slim|fit|athletic|curvy|heavyset|cute|skinny|petite} {Russian|French|Swedish|Swiss|Latina|Austrian|German|Dutch|English|Irish|Portuguese|Indian|Russian|Swiss|Swedish|Danish|Italian} woman is bent forward facing the front, a {dark-skinned||} man is partially visible behind her thrusting into her, he is holding her {hair|throat|mouth},
Her {blonde|brown|dirty blonde|light blonde|bleach blonde|black|redhead|dyed|punk|styled} hair {falls loosely around her face|is tied back|is messy and falls forward around her face}.
She is naked {with {huge|large|medium-sized|small} breasts|, her chest resting on the surface beneath her}.
{She is visibly moaning from pleasure|Her mouth is open and her brow is furrowed|There's string of white fluid around her lips and on her forehead|She is super happy and excited, really into it}.
{bright|soft|natural|indoor} lighting, {high|low}-angle viewHunyuanVideo
A{ slim| fit|n athletic| curvy| heavyset| cute} {Russian|French|Swedish|Swiss|Latina|Austrian|German|Dutch|English|Irish|Portuguese|Indian|Russian|Swiss|Swedish|Danish|Italian|Asian|Japanese} woman remains bent forward from the front with a man kneeling low centered behind her, thrusting steadily.
{eye-level face prominent|slightly below eye-level|slight high angle|high angle showing her butt crack}
Her {small breasts jiggle beneath her|medium-sized breasts swing with each thrust|large breasts swing beneath her}.
{She is very happy|Her mouth is open and her brow is furrowed|She is screaming from pleasure}.
{His right hand is holding her hair|His hand is holding her bangs|His right hand is holding her ponytail tightly on the top right of her head|He is holding her shoulders firmly}.
They are both naked with the scene lit {brightly|softly|dimly with a spotlight on the subjects}.Versions
three.1
Same as below but a tiny bit cleaner and slightly better(faster) motion.
three
Blurred faces and retrained with a select set, pruning most deviations from the core pose. This allows for stability through generalization. 10 videos, 24fps, 48 frames, ~256x256 LR 5e-5
two
19 videos, 24fps for 50 frames, better captioning and better diversity. We don't need the pillow anymore as the normal resolution run caught the right details down there, most of the time. This one is head and shoulders above pillow edition but far from perfect. Alas, it's worth the release!
pillow edition
This is just a proof of concept I ran. The curve looked great till 140, best epoch is 55... figures...
** This version has some issues with the stomach, so I prompt for a pillow there. A higher rez and lower LR will probably do better for the next version.
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amazing!
Update: if you want to get more face variability do a image of female on her knees facing the camera and then use it as a instantly jump to using his LORA in an image to video workflow and it makes a valiant effort to use the new face!
Every now and then a hero steps up and gives us what we desperately want but don’t deserve.
Thank you kind sir for making this
I've retrained with better censoring... need to test a bit more, should free up the faces :P
Has anyone ever made a rear view doggy lora for Wan?
like this?
https://civitai.com/models/1893639/pov-doggy
or what view exactly?
@az420 I should have been more clear. I mean from behind but not from an aerial view. It would be like your source image here flipped around completely (and almost completely so people could prompt something other than a scene that mostly just shows the man's body).
@ss9999 oh, I see, well, the woman would be mostly hidden right? WAN2.2 can probably do that without a LORA, since all we'd see is the man's back and butt... it has trouble with genitalia mostly, not the rest of the body...
With that said, the toughest LORAs are ones where something is implied but not actually seen. Like, you can't call it what it really is because while the human mind understands, a model needs you to be describing what's visible, mostly...
@az420 I doubt Wan can do that without a lora because loras are needed for genitalia for sure and probably for things like anal penetration and the motions. Since the loras that are available have not been trained with a partial rear view (as far as I know), I don't think it can be done at the moment. How much the woman would be hidden would depend upon the prompting, if the lora for rear view would be flexible when it's designed. It could have, I would think, like three different angles. My idea for a rear view lora wouldn't be restricted to 100% rear where you wouldn't see the woman much. It would be more interesting for most people for it to be able to pan so more or less of the woman can be seen as the camera moves.
@az420 That one cuts the man mostly out of the scene. I'm looking for one that has more man than woman, one that specifically shows the guy's butt and how it flexes as he thrusts. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I did see that one.
@ss9999 the challenge is likely going to be in finding footage... porn clips, for straight people, are rarely if ever going to show the man's butt but not the woman's parts... then... homosexuals won't want to see a woman at all, so maybe gay porn might cover this.. in which case you'll need someone with the patience for going through that process.
As I've gotten better at captioning and training, I still find clip hunting painful af...
no tattoos
high quality/resolution
very similar positions
no watermark
no repeat models
varied backgrounds
no random fingers/limbs appearing where the model won't understand them
etc...
gl!
@az420 I haven't watched porn in a long time but at least long ago it wasn't uncommon to have rear views in the hetero films. It's not that the woman is never seen. It's that the man's body isn't intentionally excluded from all of the shots. So, one gets to see his ass clench as he thrusts, his balls moving, etc. Some hetero films would even show his anus. Perhaps some of the old school directors wanted to be comprehensive. The "softcore" stuff (like various Emmanuel films), though, very strongly excluded the male as I remember it. I was never a fan of that stuff.